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crystalelemental · 1 year ago
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"karnilla74: What did they do with Lusamine?? Is it as bad as USUM?"
I'm glad you asked! See, as a coherent character, she's fine. I can at least fully understand what is going on with her and why. But as Lusamine? The anime is probably my least favorite iteration of her.
The problem with USUM was that it wanted to pivot, literally between scenes, from standard Lusamine to "Wait no she's doing this for well-intentioned reasons!" We literally get back to back scenes of "If you won't do as I say, then I have no children" to "I was doing all of this to protect this world and my children." The problem was the writers not caring to make coherent sense of her character, and backing out of engagement with what she was doing entirely. Which, to put it mildly, sucks.
As mentioned, the anime is coherent. Lusamine's character and motivations are clear, if watered down. They're playing very strongly to the Good Lusamine approach of USUM, but are going about it in a way that works for what they want. Lusamine is, in this iteration, much tamer. The big conflict is very...boring, stock standard, high profile job parent works too much and the kid is sad about it, mixed with a bit of "she's always treating me like a kid." So you get the sense of okay, there's tension with the family, but this is piss-easy to resolve. We get a couple notes showing she's fairly selfish and doesn't always consider other people, but framed as more...childish than cruel. "I liked it as Clefairy, and you evolved it when I wasn't home!" "Yeah, but it's cuter as Clefable and I was the one raising it." That kind of thing. Gladion tried to bitch her out about wanting to see an Ultra Beast, in spite of one being the cause of Lillie's trauma, but like...Gladion, I know you're like 13 and filled with angst, but there is a difference between "I would like to see this thing we've been studying in person" and "I am ignoring the trauma my child went through because of it." She's not suggesting showing it to Lillie. She just wants to see it. You're being dramatic.
But by now I hope the problem is obvious. This...isn't Lusamine.
Say what you will about USUM fucking up. I certainly do. But at least its presentation of Lusamine is still the bad bitch who runs the world. The anime tries to present a Lusamine who is completely ignorant of everything going on, who has no direct research experience of her own and relies on Burnet to study the beasts, is playful and childish and has like zero control over anyone, instead pleading with her kids to listen to her and when Faba steps out of line effectively just going "Faba, come on, stop." There's none of the poise, the confidence, the control that Lusamine is known for. It's like the only way they could think to really present her as not being evil was to make her infantile. The anime is of course no stranger to presenting a character as completely different from their counterparts in the games, but this is the first one that comes across as completely wrong.
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theerurishipper · 2 years ago
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Pretty much confirms that Goh is leaving after 136 lol
I'm not happy about it. So I'm gonna rant about it on tumblr dot com.
Goh deserved better. As a character. He got one of the most unsatisfying and rushed conclusions to his goal. The pacing in Journeys was so poor that both Ash and Goh suffered from the effects. It was a chore to get through Project Mew. I'll say it again and again and again. The episodes were scarce to begin with and the new characters were glorified plot devices. Goh's development throughout the series was to learn not to be a loner, and PM was a good way to challenge him... on paper. But you can't expect me to believe he isn't willing to team up with people when he's done it before. With Team Rocket, no less, for far less. And it doesn't really challenge him either. One episode he's antagonistic to the idea, the next he's working flawlessly with Horace and then with Gary. And the problem never gets explored.
This is all an issue with JN's pacing. They have all these interesting ideas and they commit to nothing. It's not just Goh. Ash too, has arcs that on paper sound good but really? They're rushed, spaced out far too much to leave any impact. We get Gengar centric episodes after we've barely seen him in the anime for over 20 episodes or so, and like, where was he all this time? And it's the same with Goh. We got too much Goh focus in the first half of JN and next to nothing in the second. And it hurts his character. Ash's journey through, well, Journeys was lackluster too. The battles were average, he was not challenged much at all, Leon was more built up with lip service than with actual feats on screen... thematically, the battle was not that meaningful in terms of their relationship as compared to Kukui or Paul or even Alain. But the actual M8 tournament more than made up for it, even though it had flaws. The battles were good for the most part (we don't talk about Alain and Diantha), and Ash vs. Leon, while not well built up, still managed to amaze me. The animation, the moment with all Ash's pokemon... and even the Flashbacks with Leon sold me on it being a grand finale battle for the series. It was well written. It was good. The whole M8 tournament lasted about 13 episodes. It made watching Ash's journey through the series worth it.
But Goh didn't get that. He got 2 lackluster episodes that were slow, and oversaturated with characters we don't care about. Let's be real, no one cares about Tsurugi and Asahi. The only ones people care about are Gary and Goh and Horace to some extent. Groudon and Kyogre were clearly to fulfill JN's quota of "showing every pokemon." And Goh's always wanted to catch Mew? He should have more of a reaction at not doing that (unless I missed it, regardless my point kinda stands). He should have had a few moments where he realized Mew needed to be free or something and let it go. Instead, we got bootleg Groudon and Kyogre for half the episode. And just like that it's over. What was the point of learning all that backstory again?
I liked JN. I really did. After Ash vs. Steven, I wrote a whole rant about it, but I still tried to like it. But now? I can't. I see every criticism of JN that I thought was too much and I find myself agreeing with them. It started out so well too, and it just kept going downwards. These episodes solidify that for me. I guess they're good. They're nice. But as a conclusion to Goh's whole arc, the whole 4 years? Lackluster. Poor, shoddy, meaningless. And I say this because I love Goh. I really do. He's one of my favourite characters in the anipoke. Aside from Ash and Pikachu (and Alola), Goh got me into this show. He deserved way better. I saw someone else make this point somewhere, but even characters like Dawn and May, who weren't exactly co-protagonists like Goh was built up to be got so much more. They got 4-5 episodes to their Grand Festivals, May even had 2 tournaments. Goh got done dirty, and now he's leaving, destroying any hope of redeeming his character. I hoped that he would keep going on as a companion, but it was kind of a pipe dream anyway. I knew it wasn't going to happen. I would have been fine with it if his conclusion had been strong and solid. But it wasn't. And as far as the preview says, he's not sticking around. If he does, I'll be over the moon. But he's not. And to see him go out this way is sad. But hey. That's all JN does anyway, one disappointment after another. It just took me too long to realise that.
A meme to sum it all up.
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torchickentacos · 8 months ago
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This April 1st, I'm going to be normal about pokeani <3
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LMAO GOTTEM GET REKT ok so
Can we talk about the characters of the day from AG014. What the fuck. Why are they so weird. They're twins. Forrest and Forrester, surname Franklin. They both go by Franklin for some ungodly reason. They look identical with only a minor difference in their outfits. Forrest is a ranger. Of the park variety and not a pokemon ranger. Forrester, his twin, is not a ranger afaik, I think he's just kind of there???? They were both born right outside of Rustboro, but both brothers only have Johto bug type pokemon, and we know that Forrest has never been to Johto because his whole episode arc is May inspiring him to travel on his own, because he's too scared to. He admires her strength and independence or whatever, but we're on AG014, May's only been doing this traveling gig for like a week and she is comically terrible at it for the entire first season and a half. She’s incompetent, said with utmost love and respect. She's only got a torchic and a wurmple right now. Forrest admiring her traveling abilities is like admiring a microwave's ability to be an industrial kitchen. They also give him some pseudo-romance plot with her, because pokeani May was out here captivating multiple people with her dumbass swag. Drew, Forrest, and Sid being the canon ones I remember off the top of my head, but also probably Dawn tbh, and I’m like 85 percent sure she accidentally homewrecked Pacifidlog Joshua even if he didn’t actually like her but I last saw that episode when I was maybe eight years old, so grain of salt. What the fuck. Anyways, Forrest’s all "Oh, seeing you all independent makes me want to travel with you guys! :)" and between that and the weird crush subplot, you'd think they were setting him up to be this important next traveling companion. He's set up as this important guy who's going to stick around. Nope. We never see this guy or his brother ever again. Never again. He shows up in one episode, doesn't elaborate on literally anything, and then leaves. Let's go back to the fact that he has an identical twin, their names are Forrest Franklin and Forrester Franklin, AND THEY BOTH INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS FRANKLIN? YOUR FIRST NAMES ARE ALREADY BASICALLY THE SAME THING ANYWAYS. WHAT FRESH HELL. 
More random facts. He looks vaguely like Kenny to me. He made his way into one of those pinterest edits. He shares a name with one of Brock's little brothers. His ship name with May is Bugshipping. You know. Because of the bugs. He's voiced by ANDREW RANNELLS. READ THAT AGAIN. He shares a VA with Harley. I’m just at a loss. Pokeani voice acting is its own rabbithole that leads you places like knowing that the following characters share a voice actor: Drew, Brock, Scott, that Magnemite from Journeys, Ghetsis, and King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule. Also the red and yellow M&M in the 2008 M&M wii game. There were four voice acting credits for that game. He was three of them. The only character he didn’t voice seems to be the green M&M, which is actually hilarious given the whole Drew and Ghetsis thing. Anyways.
I'm sure I could go on. Pokeani has so many COTDs that are like this (weird). I could talk about the watermelon farmer. I could talk about Samurai. There's Max (no, not that one). I could talk about fucking. sigh. TOMMY/TOMO/WHATEVER HIS NAME IS. WHATEVER THAT EPISODE WAS. Lord knows I could talk about Brianna (girl... /judgmental). There's essays to be written about Mikey and his weird brothers. I could talk about the dead guy that May and Meowth saved and created a new timeline for, because this dude knocked up his wife and then died in a snow-induced train crash before his wife could tell him about their child, and their grandchild looks weirdly like Brianna. But the dead guy is fine. Don’t worry. May and Meowth saved him with the help of a magical locket. Unclear how or why or literally anything. Just not worrying about it. And there’s the whole split timeline thing. Thanks pokeani. Back to other characters. I need to study Roderick and his little bellsprout and wynaut army and the fact that Paul’s his grandson (allegedly) under a microscope. Solidad might as well be a COTD, but lord knows now isn’t the time for The Solidad Rant. Then there's this next guy with a fucked up family situation. Timmy Grimm. He sounds like a Wizard 101 necromancer. Nobody in pokeani gets a last name but for some reason TIMMY GRIMM did. There's Damian and Seymour and Bill and honestly every single person who showed up in OS tbh. Then there's like. Marble. Old Man Swamp. STEVELAND AND HALVERSON. WHAT KIND OF NAMES EVEN ARE THOSE. S T E V E L A N D  AND  H A L V E R S O N . Steveland……………
You guys wanna know the worst part. Not a single damn thing I said here was an April Fool’s joke. None of it. Everything here is true. I have the world’s most fucked up citations list to prove it. Here. Have it. I don’t even care. It’s in MLA 8 format, but probably wrong because I always lose points for messing up on citations on every paper I write. I’m posting this post and then calling it a day. I’m going to go make some coffee. No in text citations because I can't actually be bothered to put that much effort into this tbh, so. Here. World's worst citations list. I don't even care.
Works Cited
Behindthevoiceactors.com. “Bill Rogers (visual voices guide).” Behind The Voice Actors, https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Bill-Rogers/. Accessed 1 April 2024.
Behindthevoiceactors.com. “M&M's Adventure (2008 Video Game).” Behind The Voice Actors, https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/MMs-Adventure/. Accessed 1 April 2024.
Bulbapedia. “Forrest Franklin - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia.” Bulbapedia, https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Forrest_Franklin. Accessed 1 April 2024.
Bulbapedia. “Joshua (Coordinator) - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia.” Bulbapedia, https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Joshua_(Coordinator). Accessed 1 April 2024.
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pokemon-my-beloved · 11 months ago
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so i played the dlc
and it was. alright? but while i was playing the teal mask, i was writing my thoughts down so i could make a little mini-review, and then i just. never posted it. so here i am now, with my thoughts from ALL of the dlc, but i have to separate it because i said. So Much. this post has teal mask stuff, i'll reblog with indigo disk thoughts
spoilers under the cut!
are my besties coming with me on this field trip. please please please
blueberry academy is in UNOVA????? holy shit i am IMMEDIATELY more interested and invested in the indigo disk
have my boy there. i am Manifesting him
listen briar i’m sure your intentions are pure and all probably but you can’t go into the great crater of paldea okay i say this as someone who has been there. leave my bestie alone
i don’t think my besties are coming with me :( one sec i gotta go say goodbye to them
okay nemona please try not to burn the academy to the ground, penny sunlight is necessary to your survival please leave your room at some point, mabosstiff please take care of arven while i’m gone
GOD i love these kids okay i’m going
i am. aware of the violet book. why
the paranormal???? oh so she’s a dork
and heath’s descendant alright that’s fine i’m no longer as concerned as I was before
OH MY GOD IS SHE SHOWING ME THE TERAPAGOS PAGE UNCENSORED????
SHE IS
i am…….. wary……. of terapagos, but continue
she wants to find it? bestie
okay so the other people on the trip are randos. three of them. this feels like salt in the wound, just a lil bit
this kid is NOT my “travel buddy” i have exactly ONE buddy and he is in paldea >:(
i’m not going to let that go i am NOT going to get over that
oh it’s my replacement besties or whatever. i’m not going to get as attached to them I’m saying this now because i know it to be true. unless these kids have daddy issues out the ass i will not get attached
okay so carmine is nemona 2 electric boogaloo except i like nemona more
sorry for continuing to play it up i just Love Them So Much
oh so we’re just going to. i was going to say block off the wholeass road but this is scarvi so. guess not
oh so this is just nemona if she was pacifica northwest huh
only one of them was giving me grief but i’m gonna hit yes anyways cause carmine is already getting on my nerves
man this is exactly what i said about arven huh. unless she pulls out a sick dog and daddy issues i’m not impressed and even then i'm not impressed cause like. quit copying homework from two characters who i already like more
mossui town is a very pokeani coded name i think
oh god which of these stupid fucking loser kids am i gonna be working with
nevermind it’s probably gonna be kieran
his hair is really fucking stupid I cannot see his nose at all it grates on me more the more I look at it. not what i would call good character design
hair’s not quite as egregious on carmine but still kind of a problem
WOAHHHHHH THE NURSE JOY RESDESIGN POG
this is literally jessie. like it’s just jessie i can’t fucking be convinced otherwise
i mean. define cool? but yeah sure this kid’s growing on me it’s cool
ohhhhh cool as in 3v1 cool. yeah alright that is cool
KIERAN NO WHY DID YOU SAY THE S-WORD
HOW DID YOU EVOLVE YOUR POKEMON SO FAST
probably because they were already like level 58 or whatever
okay so we are GUARANTEED going to get trapped in here or whatever since ogerpon was outside but i’m sure i can bust us out so i’m not really worried tbh
“you’re a sweet kid kieran” vs “wHEN CAN I MOVE IN” GHALKSJGKLASJGLKAJSG
yeah okay i’ll go to the festival of masks sure seems fun
ugh YOU
fuckin. i don’t get a mask i guess. absolutely fantastic (sarcastic)
yeah sure i’ll battle whatever
“stop using supereffective moves” she says, like that will stop me
oh is poltchageist/sistcha a divergent evolution of the polteageist line? nice!
ogerpon’s stUPID FUCKING PONCHO JAKSJKSJGLKSJG
“say chansey” is cute but i’m unsure why cheese wouldn’t work like cheese is very much in this game
oh, thank you for the candy apple kieran!
what the fuck does OUSTIN mean, game. that is NOT a word, what the fuck
wait. it is. fuck
what if i just. didn’t go after ogerpon AJKLGSJGLK
okay well i can’t leave the festival or do anything else IN the festival so
this bitch is GOING to punch me in the face i guarantee it jvaslkgjlags
apparently everyone just thinks its a kid. wild
oh that’s a cute cute CUTE face
ogerpon’s adorable. alright
I SOMEHOW DON’T THINK IT’S A KID, CARMINE
kieran i would NEVER make fun of you what the fuck
carmine you are SO mean all the time i feel like jet at the end of the sonic riders dub
oh did the loyal three attack and ogerpon defended the village. makes sense for pokemon tbh
“passed down by word of mouth” just write it down, man
OH SHIT THE MASKS HAVE TERASTAL GEMS IN THEM FUCK
i’m sorry kieran i was specifically instructed to lie to you okay listen
i guess i’m not going to the festival of masks tonight? damn okay then
okay yeah this is pretty as fuck but i’ve been to area zero and i did expect it to look like this, carmine
oh! a mitotic! hi! what the fuck!
well that’s convenient huh. i’m not getting in the fucking pool, i guess
oh briar hi! are these terastal crystals? cause i’m pretty sure they are
water? eh close enough
oh he’s gonna summon the loyal three isn’t he. that’s probably not good
kieran in our defense we were specifically instructed to not tell you this like did you miss that part i know you were eavesdropping
if nothing else it seems like he’s gaining some self confidence from all this it seems like
oh they were stuck in the monument? that’s… a bit weird, but i’m sure it’s fine
sure wish someone who could understand pokemon was here (hint hint) THAT SURE WOULD BE HELPFUL HUH (HINT HINT)
sorry i just. i Miss him
guess i’ve gotta fight the loyal three now. bet
ooh triple battle?
nevermind. this blows
you’re trying to recreate the crater crew and it isn’t working i’m not as attached to these two
oh i just noticed that the flying taxi has noctowls instead of squakabilly in kitakami that’s cool!
ogerpon was running in lil circles around me while i wrote that this bitch cute as hell
sorry for having protagonist syndrome kieran
HE GOT SO BIG
oh god HE ATE THE HERBA MYSTICA NOOOOOO adhsfjhfsfh
ogerpon cheering us on is adorable, oh my god
oh did kieran tell the village the truth i’m pretty sure he did
yup he did
i think this battle with kieran is the last of the story
oh damn he just COLLAPSED
okay do i battle ogerpon or does he just get in a ball
battle it is ig!
oh its poncho changes with its mask thats cool!
OH FUCK HE TERASTILLIZES WITH HIS MASKS JUST AUTOMATICALLY
“memories of adventuring with you grant ogerpon strength” THAT’S CUTE AS HELL WHAT THE FUCK
“memories of a partner from long long ago grant ogerpon strength” HEY WHAT THE FUCK OW
OH SHE’S A GIRL SHIT SORRY OGERPON DIDN’T MEAN TO MISGENDER YOU
her name WAS gonna be kieran but change of plans this is majora now
majora might be a guy actually i do not have a clue. i’m sure it’s fine
again. sorry for having protagonist syndrome kieran but i can’t do shit about it
carmine my home is in another country i understand what you’re going for but i live in paldea
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING IN THE GREAT CRATER. I’M GOING HOME FUCK ALL OF YOU
kieran what the FUCK is happening bud
oh god he’s pulling a paulo from pokemas isn’t he goddammit
did terapagos get to him. is he gonna get professor turo’d
guess that’s it! i’ll be back for this shit when the indigo disk drops ig
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autumn-foxfire · 2 years ago
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Whoo 🙌 salt on! Glad it was cathartic! The concept of “clean blame/no nuance villains” seems to be pretty universal. You pick your favorite blorbo, you make him the whumpe because it’s easier than acknowledging the other side, or accepting the complexity and errors of your personal fav. I’ve seen it often, and hell, I am a guilty party, sometimes I just wanna give a guy a strained relationship with his dad when it’s not that bad in canon, it’s just for fun writing so I can found family him with his co-workers. Or you know, Rose and Leon in Pokeani, that’s another frequent cited example. The people have spoken and they wanna go 🥺 noo poor baby, and have the villain hurt people so you can get more concerned protective fury in there. Just the media enjoyers experience, but I get the oversaturation of it for those who really see into the balance of everyone’s characters, rights and wrongs and perspective, it feels cheap and incredibly misunderstanding the full scope of what makes them who they are to be the characters you recognize and enjoy. Oof, that feels like the DabiHawks writer experience. This is so universal ngl just based off character design stereotypes, I would’ve thought Zhongli would’ve been the fandom fav. Reading all that, I can 100% agree with you, that sounds aggravating as hell. I hope you know some writers who don’t do that. Salting in a group chat about fandom takes is also very cathartic esp when there’s that one person who salts with hilarious energy and phrasing. I think you’re probably that person XD someone out there is reading your post and chugging apple juice in solidarity and pointing going “PREACH!!! EXACTLY”
I like exploring tensions between characters too (I have a series with Childe and Zhongli specifically doing this) however I find that often people don't really care for the nuance of the situation and only like to focus on the feelings of one character. Often it ends up being the one who doesn't often show emotion that is ignored too...
It makes me feel icky when people do that T-T Just because you're not expressive doesn't mean you don't feel, you know? And when a character reacts with anger and hurt, that doesn't mean that they're right! We like to sympathise with characters and their emotions to the point that we often don't realise that sometimes they're being pretty irrational.
I don't think I'd have an issue with this if it was an offshoot of fandom who enjoys doing this but it seems like the whole fandom barring a few will make Zhongli the "villain" and have to make it up to Childe rather than being "both did pretty hurtful things to one another".
I'm always someone who likes to look at both sides though instead of just saying one person is at fault because a lot of the time, they're not the only one whose wrong and or they're reacting to others and how they're reacting might not be the best it doesn't mean the blame can solely fall on them, you know?
I have a real-life example of this even, a friend got pretty drunk the other day and was doing stupid stuff that were annoying my other friends, however I was sober and saw everything go down, while the friend doing dumb stuff was going too far, our other friends had been egging him on. However when people sobered up, they were soley annoyed with that friend doing dumb stuff and weren't thinking why he had done it.
It's easy to pin blame on one person, it's harder to look back at the event and think "actually all sides have a role to play in this". And I find fandom also falls into the same trap when analysing media.
I try not to be salty too often so, because I'd rather not be negative all the time (it's why I slowed down on answering asks at first too, as I know people were venting however I was afraid I was becoming way to cynical as a response). But doing it from time to time is good.
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While I agree that DP Ash was superior to XY Ash, that doesn't make the latter bad (and he's still better than the Ash in Best Wishes!
Real!
I do want to say I made all of those pokeani/Pokémon posts awhile ago and while my opinions haven’t changed that much, in general I feel like I’ve had an attitude shift about fandom. I’ve learned how much better participating in fandom is when I take things less seriously and just mind my business, which has improved my experience all around. All this to say that I never mean to insult anyone and a lot of my old posts, especially the essays/rankings/etc should be taken with a grain of salt. I’ll always be a DP stan, but people should for sure enjoy XY, BW, etc. and whatever version of Ash is in them. Every arc has its high and low points and it’s just as valid to prefer one over the other.
Sorry this was so long, thanks for the ask!
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gaycey-sketchit · 2 years ago
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(Gary anon) I took that statement with a grain of salt because stuff like that don't always lineup to what actually happens in a show. For all we know, it could mean he continues but not as the main, or his conclusion is left open-ended on his part. And the fact they've been so secretive and tight lipped on what's next until now. There definitely was a blow; but somehow not a shock to me. All we could hope like we talked about before is that he gets the best sendoff possible.
Unfortunately I did not. Lesson learned, never love or trust anyone or anything (/joke, I am being hyperbolic in an attempt at using humor to cope, but I will be warier of anything else Pokeani staff says from here on out). Genuinely I got sucker punched, and the shock still hasn't quite worn off. It still doesn't quite feel real, yesterday was so surreal.
I guess it's good to know the best boy is going out on a pretty high note at least. Strongest trainer in the world and he is so loved. Hoping the final sendoff is a good one, even though just the idea of it feels painfully bittersweet.
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ultraericthered · 2 years ago
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Pokemon for the salt meme: 4, 14, 22
4. For gameverse, I'm not fond of the idea of shipping Silver with either Ethan or Lyra (gimme Silver/Kris any day, though!). For PokeAni, it's a three-way tie between Pearlshipping, Ikarishipping, and Amourshipping (definite OTPs in the fandom, especially the latter), and for PokeSpe, it's Ruby/Sapphire. And also anyone with Blake/Lack-Two, who is fundamentally not a romantic, loving person.
14. Don't have one for the franchise that I can think of right now if that's what that meant, but on the fandom itself, I can say that I've long believed and still do believe that the majority of it has their priorities in the wrong place, especially true of the anime fandom.
22. For gameverse, Professor Sycamore. For PokeAni, Paul. For PokeSpe, I'm not sure there is any, but Ruby comes dangerously close at times.
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australet789 · 4 years ago
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Oh god the preview of the next pokeani episode
I have mixed emotions
It's either a bait or we are gonna have a big war in the fandom
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colourful-void · 4 years ago
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Which Pokemon Protagonists get the most screen time? (Figuring out if Goh is “stealing the spotlight” from Ash)
I’ve seen a lot of people say that Goh gets too much screentime, so I decided to see how he stacked up against other companions, using math!
Bulbapedia sorts episodes into categories, one of which being “Episodes focusing on (character name)”. Using what bulbapedia defines as an episode focusing on a character, I will be calculating what percent of a seasons episode focus on a character. I’ll use the main characters (ash and whoever his companions are that season) as well as team rocket for the sake of comparison. I’ll also be including chloe despite her not being a companion because a decent amount of episodes focus on her. (Information may not be completely accurate because of bulbapedia’s available information, but this is the most efficient way I currently have to do this)
Disclaimers: A) im not that good at math so there may be errors (feel free to correct me, ill fix it!) B) journeys hasn’t finished airing yet, percentages will flux with more episodes, if a significant change is made i may (no promises) update this C) some episodes focus on multiple characters or no character in paticular according to bulbapedia, and im not counting pokemon centric episodes so the percentages will not add up to 100. D) you need to take into account that ash previously had multiple companions and goh is only one person.
Journeys: Goh: 21% (13/60) Ash: 18% (11/60) Chloe: 11% (7/60) Team Rocket: 6% (4/60) Goh and Chloe Combined: 32% (19/60)
Sun and Moon: Ash: 23% (34/146) Lillie: 11% (17/146) Sophocles: 7% (11/146) Mallow: 7% (11/146) Lana: 7% (11/146) Team Rocket: 7% (11/146) Kiawe: 6% (9/146) Lillie, Lana, Mallow, Sophocles, and Kiawe combined: 42% (59/146)
XY: Ash: 36% (51/140) Serena: 18% (26/140) Bonnie: 15% (22/140) Clemont: 18% (26/140) Team Rocket: 5% (8/140) Serena, Bonnie, and Clemont combined: 52%
Black and White: (haven’t seen black and white so if im wrong about main characters lemme know) Ash: 28% (41/142) Iris: 18% (26/142) Cilan: 16% (23/142) Team Rocket: 9% (13/142) (not counting unaired episodes) Iris and Cilan combined: 34% (49/142)
Seasons Ranked By Other Protagonists Percentage: X&Y: 52% Sun & Moon: 42% Black & White: 34% Journeys: 32% So does Goh have more screentime than Ash in journeys? yes, by 2 episodes. Does Goh have more screentime than the other companions? also yes, by around 3%. Does this mean Goh has an unfair amount of screentime? Argueably, no. Sun and Moon had 5 companions, XY had 3 and Black and White had 2. Journeys has Goh, and possibly Chloe it’s not really clear. So compared to the amount of the time the other companions get, when including all companions in a given series, Goh has average (if not a little less) screentime!
So IMO based on this evidence, Goh is not “stealing the spotlight from ash” anymore than any of the companions who came before him.
I hope this helps y’all understand Goh’s place in the story a bit better =D!
(concerns and any errors you find are welcomed to be pointed out to me, this isn’t useful if it’s wrong.)
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nerdgatehobbit · 3 years ago
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12/7/21
I tried to do the ‘Year in Review’ but it wouldn’t post for me.  It was almost entirely Stargate-related, which wasn’t a surprise.  Though I still need to do this month’s Stargate posts for the blog.
In Shining Pearl, I now have Radek the Absol and since Shriek is fully evolved, I’m now leveling up Cirrus the Swablu to get an Altaria.  Although also fully evolved, Beckett & Meredith are staying on the team.  I got to keep the science trio together!  Story-wise, I have three badges now.
I admittedly haven’t made much Sun & Moon progress, but I have started the storyline featuring Kahuna Nanu, which has been fun so far.
Five episodes into OUAT’s first season, and I continue to have mixed feelings about it, which I expected going into this re-watch.  Thus why its reviews are on a biweekly schedule.  Also, I feel like it’s way more understandable for Cruella & Maleficent to have ‘dark and edgy’ backstories than Jiminy Cricket.
“The Devil in the Dark” was a fun episode.  At this rate, I might be done watching the first season by the end of the year.
I’m mostly enjoying XWP’s second season, but there’s been quite a bit of second-hand awkwardness for me.  Though a lot of that is just because I’ve been extra-frazzled for nearly two years now, and I guess I’m nearing the end of my rope.  :/
On a happier note, the second season of Trollhunters has been super interesting so far.  I miss Walt Strickler, but now Mark Hamill is voicing Blinky’s evil brother, which is delightful.
I’m super excited to see The Book of Boba Fett; Temuera and Ming-Na have an incredible dynamic and I’m thrilled that they’re getting a spinoff.
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crystalelemental · 1 year ago
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When you come back to watch the Pokemon anime as an adult after watching as a kid, the thing they don’t warn you about is that you will grow increasingly annoyed at Team Rocket’s very existence, and all the positive memory of them comes from like three episodes while the episode-to-episode bullshit gets forgotten. But it is real, and it is constant, and I think I hate them now.
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smilingperformer · 4 years ago
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Two days til new anipoke ep airs, excitement levels keep rising every day :'D I don't even really know what to expect from the ep aside from capture and moments between Gou and Koharu. I need to know why Gou is dressed in school uniform lol, IS he a dropout or not?
I mean.... he could be one of those students who come to study whenever they want lol I mean in the same way Shinichi (from Detective Conan) sorta goes to school when he's able to turn back to normal for a bit, Kagome (from Inuyasha) had large gaps between study days, etc etc etc. I don't think they ever said that Gou was actually a dropout. Why else would Koharu have given him homework from school? Remember, back in ep 2? I suddenly starting wondering about it... HMMMMM.
So maybe Koharu won't be a dropdout and instead will be both studying and join research fellows team for most future trips? Just, thinking.
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perenlop · 4 years ago
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the dub exclusive oak x delia hint :/
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sage-nebula · 8 years ago
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Ash is never going to win a game League. He just won’t. He won’t, because when he becomes Champion he will fulfill his goal of being a Pokémon Master, and at that point the show will end because they can’t replace Ash as the protagonist (because doing so would mean replacing Pikachu, and they can’t do that because Pikachu---and specifically Ash’s Pikachu---is vital). Years ago there was an interview with one of the producers of the anime, and he actually started laughing when asked if Ash would ever become a Pokémon Master, because he can’t. He won’t. Not until it’s time for the anime to end, and let’s face it: This is probably going to continue on until the sun burns out.
So the fact that some people (not everyone, of course, but certain people) continue to hate on any character who dares to defeat Ash in the League is beyond fucking ridiculous. Gladion has appeared in one episode thus far. One. Yet the mere possibility that he could defeat Ash in the Alolan League---a league that, as of right now, doesn’t even exist yet in the anime---is enough to make some people declare him “fucking garbage.” People are still, as you can see, leveling hate at Alan because Alan defeated Ash in the League finals. Never mind that Ash made it farther than he ever has before, never mind that it was a battle that was down to the wire---no, what Alan did was sinful, enough for him to be hated even now, months and months later, despite the fact that he had one of the most compelling stories in the anime to date. (Well, that’s subjective, but the fact remains that The Strongest Mega Evolution was written specifically to tell his story, and that the idea of adding mega evolution as an element came later. The producers have specifically said that TSME was not written to market mega evolutions, but rather was written to tell a story. That played a huge part in how goddamn good it was, that it broke from the PokéAni tradition of existing to be a commercial.) In the eyes of people like this, anyone who dares to defeat Ash in Leagues (or probably in general, to be honest, but especially in the League) is automatically garbage. It doesn’t matter that Ash can’t win a game League without the show ending, or how well-written the other character is. No, none of that matters, because if they dare to commit the unforgivable sin of defeating the Chosen One, they’re irredeemable trash.
It’s honestly rather angering to me, particularly since I’ve loved Ash Ketchum since I was eight years old (so about nineteen years now), and I don’t want to feel anything remotely negative toward him, particularly since he has received a lot of nasty, unwarranted, factually inaccurate hate from people over the years as a result of hype backlash and a need to hate on anything remotely “childish” in an effort to seem cool. But in all honesty, Ash’s stans are just as bad as his ardent haters, just in a different way. They don’t even really see Ash as Ash, as a character, but rather just seem him as a vessel whom they want to live vicariously through. Thus, when he loses, they take it personally and slam hate on whatever character defeated him, regardless of how the battle went or how the story developed as a result, and regardless of how Ash himself might feel about the battle or result. It isn’t about Ash, not really; it’s about the glorified version of him they’ve built up in their heads to project on and live through, and therefore their own personal feelings of ire toward whoever stands in the way of his glory.
Regardless, I guess we can prepare for Gladion to get the same amount of backlash and hate should he defeat Ash later on as some people are already thinking he will. He won’t be “redeemed” unless he loses to Ash in their final match like Paul did. It’s sad af, but that seems to be the true pattern nonetheless.
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ofdragondrums · 4 years ago
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anonymous said: You were the first person I thought of when I saw Iris is coming back dhhdhd - she deserves more of a spotlight but AAAAA I’m so excited to see all the old characters coming back!!! Especially when she never got her cameo like FINALLY !! :,D
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Nonny this message is SO SWEET, you don’t even know alkfajd;f I’m really happy to hear that a) you think highly of my girl b) you thought of me/this blog when you found out c) that was a good thing & d) that someone else is friggin pissed about her not showing up in XY. I know that her showing up will be the precursor to like, everyone else getting a chance to shine, but given how many times pokemon has found creative reasons to leave iris out of a group thing, i’m just happy she’s there and getting her due, you know?
Now make her episodes phenomenal and GIVE US CHAMPION REP*.
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